Necromancers and Continuing of Lineage

 Necromancy (/ˈnɛkrəmænsi/)^[1][2] is the practice of magic involving communication with the dead by summoning their spirits as apparitions or visions for the purpose of divination; imparting the means to foretell future events and discover hidden knowledge. Sometimes categorized under death magic, the term is occasionally also used in a more general sense to refer to black magic or witchcraft a whole.

When we discuss about White and so call Dark Magic, usually the discussion of continuation of lineages for these branch of magic is often not mentioned at all. 

Many would presume, anyone would be able to learn or on the opposite end of spectrum only those who have been chosen can learn it.

It is a mixture of both criteria. This blog post we will specifically mentioned on the Necromancers continuation of lineage especially within traditions of South East Asia and also Asia as a whole.

Death Magic or those who has ability to communicate, invite, summon, control and even banish spirits/ghost are those belonging to the necromancy branch of dark magic. Dark in a sense here means their modus operandi deals with passed away human in forms of  spirits, ghost, entities and other forms of dark energies.

In actual fact, dark or black magic does not mean it is evil, just that the branches of magic uses ritual that will be consider dark to the human psyche.

In normal White Magic traditions, continuation of lineage usually is through initiations of lineage with their particular Main Deities be it Angels/Devas some can also be different forms of Higher Spirits/Entities that has direct link to their lineages or descendants.

For White Magic, when the continuation of lineage occurs usually is the Main Lineage Holder pass on their main lineage object(s) that hold significant meaning and power to the disciple that is entrusted upon continuing the lineage. Usually these objects are sacred objects such as staff, sceptre or any material related to creation of white magic process.

For necromancers lineage and line however, the lineage is passed on with not only sacred objects within the lineage but also the personal relics of previous masters.

For example, I have known a necromancer lineage in which each generation of master will pass on their own skull piece (near to brow bones which is 3rd eye location)

If the lineage span for 5 generations then the current lineage holder would have at least 4 skull piece of their past Masters. It is said that each generation of lineage holder would need to acquire their just passed away  master’s skull piece in order for deceased master to move on spiritually. If it is not done, the lineage would have a locked curse to hold their consciousness till oblivion.

There are other necromancer lineage however that would need the ashes of their previous master to be made into chanting beads as holy object for the current lineage holder.

Although from the outlook, this practice seems like taboo, however for necromancers, whom are use to harnessing the power of spirits this is logical for the continuation of lineage and also their previous Masters to bless each subsequent generations

Black Crow Sect of Ancient Khmer

Lately I have a chance to be acquainted to a disciple of the Black Crow Sect. 

What is the Black Crow Sect all about? It is a lineage of black sorcery order that stems from an ancient line of family lineage from the Ancient Khmer era.

This line of sorcery lineage only specialised in the dark arts of sorcery and witchcraft. Their main Deity that they pay homage to is the Black Crow Deity. 

In the ancient Khmer, the royal palace would have a Black Crow Lineage Sorcerer as advisor on all occult matters. The advisor would also serve as protector of the royal family from any spiritual harm.

Each generation of Black Crow Sect practitioner have strict dark precepts to adhere to such as living the life as loner and are not allow to marry and take on a family life.

In terms of executing their sorcery or involved in spiritual engagement with others, if they use the Black Crow Deity method then they will need to capture the soul of their opponent as gift to their Deity. Meaning they have to fight till either the opponent lose their life or they will have to pay with their life.

This is a very dark and ruthless form of requirement which means each practitioner will not have any hold back when engaging their enemy or opponent. Although certain Mao Shan lineage have 绝教 Ruthless requirements, it is only limit to not having family. This is also for their disciples of the lineage to go all out without any worry for possible backlash on their descendants.

But for the Black Crow Sect is to end the life of each enemy or opponent in each engagement or one would need to end one’s life if fail to do so. Therefore making them a very fearful group of sorcerer to have as an enemy or opponent.

Although all these may sound like some background story for movie storyline, the last surviving Black Crow Sect Master is still alive and well in Cambodia today. 

He has take on some disciples, and I have manage to be acquainted to one of his disciple to get to know about their lineage. The uniqueness of Black Crow Sect when they engage their magic/sorcery/force they grounds whether they do their magic will definitely have presence of crows even though you cannot spot any crow before they begin the ceremony.

2023 Update

 Its been more than 17 months since I last posted on this blog. It a whole new world now to continue on writing blogs. ChatGPT already make writing articles almost redundant. While TikTok and Video Shorts decrease attention span to almost less than 1 sec. If you can read this far, you are one of the rare breed or those born in the 80s or earlier.

What's the update so far?

1. Kam Dong San Temple that I am leading already almost all done up in its current building. Last phase for renovation will begin this July. Kam Dong San Temple

2. Temple activities are ongoing and like clockwork according to months, seasons and also celebration.

3. We have many new testimonials, new faces and new members. The last batch that join us was those that have read this blog! in the past decade.

4. Spiritual cases gets less and less on my personal encounter as nowadays my focus is on helping patrons and members on more horrifying agenda, which is to survive and thrive in economic environment post Covid 19 world. (www.facebook.com/mastergkham)

5. Personalised Pure Beeswax Candle Taoist Talisman which I am providing for clients more than 8 countries since 2021 have many unprecedented positive testimonials especially helping businesses and individuals in solving various pressing problems.

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This post I am going to write about learning to shut up as time progress. It use to be in the past decade where I would specifically write an article, do a live or write a blog article whenever I wish to share with others on the not so right practice or perception or impressions that others may have about the spiritual world.

The fire in the heart or belly would be so strong that I am unable to contain my feelings and emotions to have the urge to have long extensive write up or talk just get my point across.

As time passed however especially this past 2 years, something seems to change for myself. Perhaps age, perhaps slowly become jaded, I have learn to shut up and not make a point or statement to those around me. I have learned that making a statement would not be a catalyst to spark a change especially for those that are adamant in their own spiritual stagnation.

Through out the years many that have asked for hints, pointers and even guidance on their spiritual journey, are actually asking for the sake of asking, the intention of the questions are very much for seeking ‘confirmation’ for what they already develop within, any answers that are not aligned with their answer are rejected as noise. Even though on the outlook the person may look agreeable to the answers that were given to them.

When I was young, I observed many elders in the spiritual field appear not interested in newbies or others who have approached them. Even those those newbies and eager learners appear really enthusiastic in their first few months or few years. Now I realized the full reason for those elders behaving so, as I am slowly becoming like them !

What is the point of making full explanation that span hours or even conversations that can spread across weeks, when in the end they appear to have heard or understood but in actual fact they have no wisdom to comprehend even simple sentences that can helped them progress on their path.

Some Master’s in Buddhism mentioned this as one’s wisdom has not yet opened up. Clutter with much attachment to the self. Wisdom is not given or learned as it need to ARISE from within, nothing will arise if nothing have been digested and contemplated.

If wisdom can be attained alone through learning, Shakyamuni Buddha would have attended a lot of courses and seminars. Maybe even participated in many podcasts (in today’s world) to finally achieved enlightenment. BUT he did it sitting quietly below a Bodhi tree, after he have met with different Masters.

Don’t ask for questions, if you cannot open to accept the possible answers.

Don’t be annoyed, if your questions bring up more questions from the one who is supposed to give you answers.

Not giving a reply, that itself is already a reply.

Further answers cannot be understood if you have not yet comprehend the first 3 answers given to you long time ago. Each new questions are actually continuation of your previous lack of understanding or comprehension.

No new method or technique can be given unless you exhaust the previous method fully.

Sometimes the confusion is not because of lack of intelligence but due to the lack of worldly merits to understand it. When the merit level arise, the answers automatically become obvious.

The Lady Sitting By The Balcony

NOTE: Reader would need to use more attention as there are more than usual number of characters involved in this latest account  

On the last day of 6th Lunar Month, by mid morning I heard loud Chinese orchestra sounds a few houses  away. When I try to hear more clearly it sounded of a group of people chanting. I thought someone has passed away and they hired some of the ethnic clansmen Taoist Priest to do a chanting ceremony.

By then I realised it was not a funeral but a Taoist ceremony of some kind. It was strange as it is during the pandemic and I wonder what was the urgency for a Taoist ceremony. The sound was coming from a house that the unit neighbour told me they heard noises almost every evening.

The mentioned house next door neighbour we call him G told me there were noises of chairs stomping, children running around and also sometime unexplainable loud bang in the middle of the night all the way till 2 - 3 am almost every evening. 

G said he thought it was his neighbour all along until he heard the Taoist ceremony session. He suspected it was some kind of haunting incident but did not ask his neighbour about it, since his neighbour claim to be knowledgeable in this area.

G relayed to me the story that when the neighbour just moved after 1 month, the neighbour wife rang his door bell and asked whether he knew that someone has passed away in the house before they moved in.

To the best of G’s memory, there were never any funeral ceremonies being done next door nor their family have seen any ambulance came by for any of  the former 2 neighbours. The house next door was for rented tenant all along, and this new neighbour then had just rented next door.

The neighbour’s wife told G that not long after they moved in, the temporary maid agent has told her (G’s neighbour wife) that their house is haunted, the agent claim that upon picking up the temp maid after her duty from their house, they met with an accident, after confirming the car cannot start, that they called a Grab ride home and even the Grab Ride met with an accident after picking up the agent and the temp maid.

The agent went to a monk for spiritual clearance and was told by the monk that she somehow was disturbed by a spirit through their house. The agent even recorded the video of her spiritual clearance and showed to the neighbour’s wife. In the video she went into trance after the monk chanting, and started to cry and later sing nursery songs and sounded like a child. G neighbour’s wife even showed him the forwarded video. G told me that was almost 1.5years ago but at that time the neighbour wife did not believe the temp maid agent.

Few days before the Taoist Ceremony as I went for my usual evening walk, when I walk passed the house, I was thinking about what G had told me that his neighbour house could be haunted, as soon as I had that thought suddenly in my mind appeared the image of a faceless lady in white dress floating up and down in front of the side window of their house. Her action was as if she was looking for something or someone. I didn’t went further into my meditative stabilization as the image appeared just due to my curiousity. And I thought to myself that I could be imagining things due to what G told me.

Fast forward back to my perspective on the day of the Taoist Ceremony, the ceremony went on for the whole day till almost evening time. By about 5pm, my dog was barking towards the back of my house as it heard sound of strangers at the back of our common area. From my 2nd floor back of the house I saw a person dressed as the photo below and a group of person was chanting and beating the ceremonial drums, after which the Taoist Priest took out a whip and whip at one the tree at our common backyard. He whipped for a few times and then the whole group continued back the house.

About 6pm, I went for my usual evening brisk walking, and as I walked passed the house this time, I went into meditative stabilization briefly to scan is the spirit still around, since what went on, I can only say it was a big exorcism ceremony from morning till evening.

As I went into meditative stabilization, I saw a faceless young lady was sitting by the balcony ledge on the second floor of the house. Her sitting posture was like a child, leg hanging and cross ankle rocking it slightly front and back. She was wearing a white dress, with long hair till the back, the same lady that appeared in my mind few days before when I went for walk.

All the while the priest was chanting and drums were beating on the side of the house, where they set up the ceremonial altar. And the lady spirit was sitting on the front side of the house patiently waiting as if nothing has happened and resting away from all the loud noises from the ceremony.

After I came back from my walk, the ceremony has already ended from what I saw then, I thought that was suppose to be the end of the story. I asked G few days later, did your next door still gave out noises in the evening. He told me for the 1st time after so many months they did not heard any noises since the exorcism ceremony.

Again I thought that my meditative stabilization could be my imagination since it was such a big ceremony. After about 1 week, G told me the noises in the evening from the neighbour house started again. This time it was not so often in the night but it was much more louder in between. Stomping, children crying, people running all these noises are quite obvious for G even though they are staying next door, therefore for the neighbour themselves it should be more horrifying.

The final confirmation came last week, when I saw a lorry came by down the street. G neighbour’s was moving out. It could be due to contract expiry for the rental, however I would say it is also due to the unsolvable haunting as well.

By now, you the reader would be wondering, how come I knew so much detail about the incident yet I did not offer any help. 

G’s neighbour have made it known to G, that he knows a lot of spiritual master friend and also he himself know more than usual about spiritual stuff. Therefore both G and me agreed that we should not be interfering when the person did not ask for help.

In the end, I believe the spiritual disturbance did not come from the house as G previous 2 neighbour did not complain of any spiritual haunting nor did he heard strange noises coming from next door with the other 2 past neighbours.

It could be the spirit is following the neighbour instead of the house.

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Na Man Prai @ Ghost Oil @ 尸油 @ Minyak Dagu

Ghost Oil Na Man Prai

Do you know that in the world of Thai Spiritual Magic@wicha there is an oil that can control the free will of a person? It can even force you to fall madly in love with someone that you just know. The material of this oil is usually extracted from pregnant lady corpse. 

In South East Asia, many have heard of this Spirit Oil either through folk tale or through urban legend named Ghost Oil @ NaMan Prai in Thai with literal translation Ghost Oil. There are also Thai horror movies that been made solely on NaMan Prai. 

What is the function of this Oil? Literally a spirit is in the oil either through subdued by the maker or being forced to bind into the oil.

The highest level of making corpse oil is obtained through the chin of the deceased. It must be a pregnant and the younger the better, because those that die young are more fierce in their attachment. If the lady is pregnant, either murdered, accident or drowned then fulfills even more condition according to the ancient requirement. Also the deceased must passed away on a certain day of the week to qualify for the ritual.

This type of ritual can now only be done in very remote village either in Cambodia or Thailand. And it is illegal because necromancer have to dig the grave of the victims. 

The necromancer would need to identify the grave of the victims either through the information obtained from people in the village or from local undertakers. After which they would need to secure the grave area spiritually before exhuming the body. This usually have to be done within 1 or 2 days after they victim are buried to avoid extensive rotting of the corpse. 

Once the corpse is dug up, the necromancer would need to sit up the corpse, then would have communicate with the spirit to seek her permission to obtain the oil. Usually the spirit does not have much choice, as those who are seeking to obtain these oils are experts in binding spirits and controlling spirits. Once the spirit agrees, the master would then take an arm of the corpse and rest it on his shoulder, while he begins the ritual of chanting and use specially made beeswax candle to burn on the chin on the corpse. The maximum amount that can be obtained is around 5 to 10 drops of the chin fat.

After obtaining the oil, it is still not the end of the ritual, usually the necromancer have to return to the grave for 49 evenings to do pacifying rituals. If the pacifying ritual is not done right, chances of vengeance from the spirit, or breaking the magic bind is very high. Because these type of spirit is very strong and powerful, and most cases hard to control unless pacification process is done right from the beginning.

The Chin Oil Na Man Prai usually would fetch a very high price in the market somewhere from usd5000k to usd10,000. Most of the time it is very tedious and illegal work and the necromancer risk being caught with heavy fine and high possible jail time if convicted.

There is also the 2nd type of Ghost Oil which is more common and easier to obtain.. It is through harvesting from cremation process. Usually burning of bodies are done in the temple. And beneath the cremation frame, they would usually put a tray to pick up any oil material during the cremation process. Permission would need to be obtained from the spirit of the deceased to use the oil.

The 3rd type of Ghost Oil is made by through boiling and cooking various part of the corpse, and sometimes if the necromancer cannot get it fresh, they will just boil and cooked the bones of corpse.

Although Ghost Oil effects are legendary in the circle of necromancers, the idea of obtaining anything real and effective nowadays is almost impossible unless a person is willing to pay a high price and also know the right master. These type of oil are usually kept by the necromancers for their own use.

Ghost Oil usually are place on the altar for worship. The owner will request the spirit work according to their wishes, either in helping their business, convincing a person or help in their relationship. Seldom will a necromancer teach their clients to apply the oil on their target. If the Ghost Oil is done for targeting someone to fall madly in love, they will need to apply the oil on their victims skin.

Once the oil touch the victim skin, the ghost would specifically target the victim and alter their impression of the person towards their owner(the one keeping the oil). Then each day their feelings towards the ghost’s master would change and some even to point of obsession. Yes, those who are under the spell of the spirit in Ghost Oil, would even just directly confront the wife/husband of the Ghost Oil owner and confess their feelings even up to the extent of deep uncontrolled obsession of just wanting to be with the person who cast the ghost oil.

Many necromancers that are skilled in making Ghost Oil would have 1 very evident effect. They would have many wives or ladies in their surrounding and all don’t mind loving the same person. This is because the necromancers in their process of fine tuning their skills, they would use it on female victims that ended up as one of their many wives or partners.

However if the Ghost Oil is not subdued properly, the vengeful powerful ghost if it enter the bloodstream of the victim, will usually start to eat/suck up the life force of the person. Sometimes it would also cause death and insanity for the victims. 

Those that use Ghost Oil as a charming tool by applying it on themselves, would also experience their own energy being drained slowly (as usually Ghost Oil that have been made into application material). Day by day their aura will become darker and eventually it will be very difficult to pull the dark energy that already bind into their bloodstream.

I have had 2 clients that told me they knew someone who have used/applied Ghost Oil on themselves or others. Both also said their friends or contact died early and with long streaks of bad luck. 

By now readers would be thinking, why would someone resort to using Ghost Oil to bind a person emotionally? Love as some say is temporary insanity of both party, as one cannot get love from the person they wanted, the extreme would be obsession before turning to use a ghost spirit to make their ‘object of obsession’ to obsessed over them.

For those that just wanted to have better impression from others, good relationships professionally and also increase of their personal aura energy, there are much better and safer ways in many different forms of magick and potent natural oil. I have shared my different rare collections in a Facebook Group called Master’s Mystical Collection. To join you will need to submit your details in full before being given access. 

Tracing me through the talisman ink

About 2 months back, one of the temple member from Malacca have run into a sha while he went for hiking. In terms of Spiritual Sha in can comes in many different forms. Encounter with malevolent spirit can be consider a Spiritual Sha and Yin Qi exposure could also be consider a Spiritual Sha. This member actually did not realize that his problem stems from one of his hiking trip.

When he contacted me he also did not think it was anything related to spiritual. He just briefly mentioned to me that he start develop rashes on his limbs, hands and legs. Do take note, if you mysteriously develop rashes out of a sudden and do not have any allergic reaction history then you be more attentive on the conditions. 

When he mentioned he developed rashes, I just briefly asked him do he went to somewhere out of the ordinary lately? Whether outdoor related to ocean or hill related? After some thoughts only he remembered he went for hiking 1 week before he develop those rashes. He went to doctor for check up, but his condition still did not improved.

I went into meditative stabilization and saw that he encountered 1 female spirit while he went hiking. The spirit was on the side of the path, when he accidentally kicked on it. Anyhow I have asked the member to come by temple to pick up the talismans for ingestion, did a brief ritual to clear his body of some residue Qi and also advised him on some things he need to do himself.

2 days after he did the ritual and ingested the talisman,  his conditioned improved and eventually all symptoms cleared.  He told me that the evening I did my meditative stabilization, he was able to sleep throughout the night, while before that he would be waking up many times throughout the night due itches from rashes.

Well that was not the end of the case as I would like it to be. Actually something happened when I cleared his Qi in the temple that hinted me it was not going to an easy settlement.

Last week discovered that the cinnnabar solution that I have cooked about 3 months back for drawing talisman suddenly turned color.

I have cooked the cinnabar solution pour onto these 2 bottle at the same time. Both bottle of cinnabar solution was the same red color as the one on the left 3 months ago.

The only difference it that the bottled that turned color was placed next to my Mao Shan Lineage plaque since the day it was made. The only edible talismans that I have drawn with this new ink was the talisman I have given to the member that went hiking. 

Immediately I have got the message from the Deities something was trapped into the bottle. I immediately went into meditative stabilization, the spirit that my member encountered somehow decided to looked for me after she was ejected out from his body after he ingested the series of talismans. Then the key questions is how did the spirit manage to trace me? Deities informed me in my meditative stabilization that it followed the trail of the ink and also my Fa 法 embedded into talisman. Anyhow the spirit was locked into the the bottle the moment it came anywhere remotely near my altar.

Of course being a skeptical realist, I do sometimes even doubt the information I receive in my checking. Being spiritual and religious is not being superstitious and sometimes I  have to double check whether I was being over imaginative on the information that I have received. Double checked with the metal oracle, and received 3 continuous Positive Oracle 勝杯.

The moment I lifted the bottle from the plaque area and hold it up, instantly my mid back muscle feel as if it was squeeze and lock. This is the usual typical response on my body when I handle some of more problematic spiritual cases. Sometimes more common is lower back muscle cramp and locked. The condition persisted for about 12 hours and then pain disappeared as mysteriously as it came. Anyhow the Deities asked me to later transfer the spirit from the bottle and into a small miniature wood statue. If you read my other blog post, you will see it is the same type of wooden statues that I used to transfer other spirits that I have caught previously.

Finally few days later manage to transfer the spirit onto the miniature statue. After the transferred the spirit, the color of the liquid changed to dark orange. It never turned back to red and I have also decided to throw away the whole bottle. 

The statue now is being place in our temple along with the other spirits that I have binded. All will be bardo delivered this coming Lunar 7th Month. 

Of course readers will have many questions such as how come the spirit dare to look for me ? Or why didn’t the spirit just leave the member after being pushed out ? Somehow spirits like human would like to try their luck .

Also many think that it is some fun think to help clear Sha for others or even something fun to be clearing malevolent spirits for others. From my body response usually you would know that it is not a fun activity.

Life on the Tao Path....

Midnight Party at the Junction

End of January 2021, I receive few WhatsApp messages from my secondary schoolmate whom is also my client TB asking for help. Both he and his wife relay to me that since last year they already encounter this problem. It all started with my friend TB’s Buddhist chanting. 

Their house is situated next to a small cross junction. The junction will only be accessed by those whom are living within the neighborhood. Early last year before the pandemic, while they were traveling, TB mum encountered uncontrollable high blood pressure while at home. Although they view it as a medical problem , soon it got strange because even after admission into hospital the problem persisted for his mum. At that time, he enquired with a monk friend who told him that his house junction has a lot of spirits waiting for boons from them. 

The monk friend actually asked TB what actually did he do to attract so many spirits? TB said he recite Buddhist Pali Chantings and do dedications to all sentient beings and also those in the hungry ghost realms. His monk friend can see from his meditative stabilization that there are too many of them, each group will receive their boon and go off then another group will come and wait for it. The situation got resolved after his monk friend ask those spirits to go temple to collect the boons and merits.

After TB told me his previous incident, he told me now is like getting worst. His dog would by mid nite, out of sudden just bark fiercely at the middle of the junction in front of their house. When the dog starts barking, he went and check his own blood pressure, it would shoot up to 154/80 range. I told him, it could be something else not necessarily spiritual, as I alway like to assess the situation from an explainable perspective first. Not only his BP would shoot up, his wife BP would also shoot up. Now things are getting strange.

It could be he forgot to consume his BP meds or possible clog of arteries if there is sudden rise of pressure in an individual. To have 2 person having uncontrollable BP despite taking their meds would be a strange situation. I ask TB why you did not get your monk friend to help you again this time? The monk friend told him it was too many, and he can only also give them some boons/merits and ask them to move on. But others would gather.

And they say that the situation now is like getting worst because not only their dog would bark at the junction, other neighborhood dogs are also barking at the junction during the same timing,.And there is not a single individual or car at the junction when all the dogs are barking towards it.

I told TB I will try to find out what is the situation and remedy. During that time I was still rushing to complete the final batch of Destiny Analysis for my clients. For almost 2 week continuous, I slept an average of 4 hours per day due to the extensive video recording for all clients. My mind was in no condition for meditative stabilization to check on it. I can only enquire with my Taoist Deities on what is needed to be done for his case. It is also due to his monk friend earlier investigation, that I decided to go ahead with the remedy part instead of investigation part following the usual process.

Called a Grab Delivery and sent TB several talisman, to seal his house access, taking care of the whatever that went into his house an also cleanse their house. Due to Movement Control Order in Malaysia, I was not able to visit his home, if I was onsite then it would be much easier to seal the house spiritually.

For his case, I would need to advised him how to perform a DIY spiritual space cleansing. After all the talismans are up and burned, that very night they don’t feel that there is anything within the house, but the dog would still bark at the junction for a short time. I explain to them it takes time for spirits to finally get it that there is no more things to receive from their house. As he continue to burn the talisman each evening, the incident occur less each evening. Finally I sent them some candles we use for exorcism to the burn in his home altar.

 And the last I checked with them, everything cleared. 

Chanting any Buddhist mantra or reading sutras is a good spiritual practice. However not everyone can withstand the crowd of spiritual friends that need the boons/merits when they gather around. If the space is not well protected, then there is a possibility of being affected by the changes of energy when these spirits gather in your vicinity.

Some teachers would go on to promote chanting or reading sutras online or make short videos on FB and YouTube to promote normal individuals to do these practices. While those watching or just learning it online would think it is a fail safe activity. What can come out of chanting or reading sutra ? they would think, without having a mental preparedness of the possible side effect. And when things turn out more than expected, many are left with no answers and more problems into the their life.